Tuesday, November 15, 2005

R2 Status Update: Issues and Your Feedback

Hi folks...here's an update on some of the issues swirling around relating to today's R2 release:


* Brief Outage: We had brief period starting around 12:30pm, where Journals were inaccessible because they were timing out. This was due to a log overflow problem and should be better now.


* Missing Owner/Edit Buttons: This problem, where users inside the AOL client were unable to create new entries, edit old ones, or edit their Journals (basically do the normal things a Journal owner can do), was caused by an authentication issue related to the switchover. The tech folks pushed through an emergency install, and it should be fixed.


* Journals Bot: Still getting error messages trying to post via IM using the AOLJournals bot. This is being worked on -- estimated time to repair is later today.


* International Journals: Non-U.S. Journals cannot see comments or add them. This is also being worked on; I don't have any additional info.


* Feedback on Ad Banners and Other Items: The team has created a screen name to collect your feedback on all the Journals changes, including the new ad banners.


Please send your feedback to JournalChanges@aol.com -- doing this will allow us to collect all your feedback and channel it to the appropriate teams.


Please note that this is for feedback comments related to the new Journals feature release only -- if you have technical problems to report or other Journals-related issues, please send me e-mail.


Thanks -- Joe

74 comments:

Anonymous said...

Still can't add entries to my freakin journal Joe!  Ugh!!

Anonymous said...

I'v already moved blogging homes until the banners are off.. and if they DON'T come off.. I am canceling my AOL all together.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for directing us to the appropriate place for us to voice our concerns about banner advertising.  Now...I challenge them to listen to us, and PROVE they care about paying subscribers.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...


What a way to meet, Joe... [:\]

I'm not buying the header-banner. I will though, accept it at the 'bottom' of my journal, if it comes with FREE AOL service.

I consider myself a professional caliber artist. I put countless hours into the graphic design of my journal, and I won't submit to such an banner destroying its aesthetics. -- Moreover, I have no intentions of blatantly promoting businesses, that I have no interest in.

I'm with Armand...

http://journals.aol.com/armandt/sense/entries/813

... and others. I'm setting up another journal, elsewhere, until things change for the better. I may also change ISP's in the near future, as well.

Here's what I want to see:

1.) All of the former space at the top, accessible for 'me' to design within. I wasn't satisfied with it before. Now, I'm through with it.

2.) More HTML code space within the 'All About Me' section. There simply isn't enough for an expert level journalist. -- I've seen your notation about that. That improvement should have came, before any banner that shouldn't have.

Laurels on 'Spell Check', if it works. I haven't tried it as of yet.

I like and admire you, Joe. You seem like a qualified person for your position. I understand that this isn't your doing. No hard feelings, I hope.

~Brian @---->---

PS: Thanks for all that you do, and have done. I'll also send a copy of this to the email address that you've provided.

http://journals.aol.com/thelovetrain/tracks/

Anonymous said...

Why should we click the link and voice our concerns there? So they can ignore us like the feedback people do? So they can send us automated emails saying how AOL listens to their members when they really don't? So you don't have to hear it anymore?  

We're not going away, Joe. And you aren't going to give us the runaround.

Ari

Anonymous said...

no Joe... we still cannot add entries and I wonder how loud we are going to have to scream in order for aol to hear us. John said that comments in the journal would be seen by higher ups... tech support said to go to Keyword: Feedback. Now you are giving us this option. How many times, and in how many ways do we have to voice our EXTREME displeasure?????

This all feels like some kind of shell game run around.

I will not post in my journal until the ad banners come down. I will leave a link tomorrow to point everybody to my peaceful blogspot where there are no ad banners, and the artsy essay contest and I will be gone for all time unless aol listens to its customers.

judi

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Anonymous said...

do you have AOL BY PHONE?  I really would like to hear the voice entry with the conversatoin between you and your boss and  hear how HARD you reallly tried to keep these banners off our paid journals.

Anonymous said...

Just got this entry twice!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the addy for complaints. I've already sent my complaint along. Not that I think it will do any good.

I've already created a new photoblog in Blogger and it's looking good. I hope to get photos up on it as soon as I get a block of time to work with. Somehow, I don't think that's what AOL had in mind.

Anonymous said...

I DO NOT LIKE THE ADS.

Anonymous said...

I spoke with AOL Billing and Cancellation Department this morning. They assured me I was the first phone call they had, had concerning canceling over my journal having banner ad. Please call these two numbers to complain to complain call 1-888-418-1447 (To inform them if this does not stop you will cancel) and  1-800-827-3338 (Tech support and also tell them will be canceling if they are not removed).


You can also see the message thread concerning this at:

http://messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=534372&articleId=51552&func=6&channel=Computers+%26+Electronics&filterRead=false&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=false

Gabreael

Anonymous said...

It's 2:31 EST and I can't update my journal.  So no, it's not fixed.

Anonymous said...

An email address where we'll get a canned email response? Come on man. This is outta hand. I feel this an attempt to placate people. But yes I'll write their anyway. Sigh.

Anonymous said...

Would you please post YOUR SUPERVISORS email?

Anonymous said...

It's been done. Now, a question. In your last entry, you stated that the infrastructure was already in place to have ads, why were we not informed that this may occur? It seems a bit sneaky for you to have known all along that this was going to happen and was already set up to be instituted.

Anonymous said...

This is effing ridiculous Joe.  An email address where they will not even read our email?  Of course.  And I agree, this is sneaky.  We should have been told about this.  What little community we had left is being destroyed by ads that we were not even told about.  It digusts me.

Heather

Anonymous said...

I can't create a new entry. When I click save it won't save it. Also, I am unable to open up my pictures. What in the world is going on? And the ads just suck in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

Add another one: Private Journals cannot be accessed save by the owner.

Anonymous said...

Joe,

I realize that a lot of journalers are coming out full force against these banner ads.

Personally, I think it's a little outlandish for people to think that their moving their blogs to another site or threatening to cancel AOL or *demanding* changes to be made in order to keep them as a customer is going to be succesful, BUT I do feel their cause is a worthy one.

I realize that AOL probably wouldn't hurt a bit even if EVERY SINGLE journal owner cancelled their account. We're just a drop in the bucket.

And I doubt that Quiznos or Bank of America would feel the slightest sting even if NONE of us ever used their services again.

BUT, should that mean that we aren't heard? Or that we don't have a say?

AOL has put a lot more effort into their journaling arena this past year - by adding you, by having John, and by making additions/changes/upgrades to the system. That must mean that we mean at least *something* to them (the collective 'them', that is).

Do I fool myself into thinking that the bigwigs of the company are bothered by the uproar down here in J-Land today? No.

But if there is anything that can be done about this, I sure hope you help us to do it.

These banners are intrusive, eyesores, have nothing to do with the content of the blog, quite possibly are of no interest to the author or readers, and just really should be unnecessary considering we PAY for our little space on the internet.

Can we do something about this, Joe?

Thank you,
Danielle

Anonymous said...

It is hard to believe that anyone  uses AOL journals anymore sometimes, because it has more problems than any other site that I know of.  Many free journals do not even have to deal with ad banners and the like.  I think AOL uses the fact that we are a tight AOL community to its' advantage to try to pull things over on us.  It really is sad that they don't get costumer feedback before they do something like this.

Anonymous said...

SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING ABOUT IT.
http://journals.aol.com/easuess/madsecretary

VISIT MY NEW JOURNAL:
http://saveasecretaryfrominsanity.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

I have a few friends that I'd also like to see get some free national advertising:

Since AOL journals are now home to free advertising, may as well make it a Two Way Street:

- A lot of kids are too poor to have Christmas this year... help out if you can:    http://www.toysfortots.org/home/

- This church in Louisiana got smashed by that big hurricane, and they need your money:  www.trinitychurchonline.net

- May as well let the Red Cross leech of you as well... at least someone you know may benefit:   http://www.redcross.org/

Anonymous said...

I have also just realized that I can't save any entries that I do...I guess that is one way to keep someone quite....

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Danielle, of course you are right that all of us leaving and cancelling, boycotting, etc. is not going to make a dent in the bottom line.  But at what point to we simply fall on our knees to the complete erosion of what used to be customer service?  AOL uses us at every turn.  They quote us on main pages, use our pictures and link to our journals when it suits their purposes, then, when it serves their purposes, turn us all into sandwich boards (nod to Quiznos, there.)  These journals are part of us.  They're part of who we are, and to have them invaded in such a hideous and unannounced (thanks a lot, Joe) manner is akin to a theft.  

I hope that each of us refuses unilaterally to allow any further use of our images, our photos, our words, including the Guest Editor list, until we are satisfied that we have been heard.

It may not make a damn bit of difference in the long run, but in the long run I won't be here to care.

~~ jennifer

Anonymous said...

My complaint has been e-mailed just now.  I feel strongly that we read enough advertising elsewhere on AOL (and the Ineternet as a whole).  I have always felt that the journals area, although not private, had that private feel.  I don't want nor do I need the distraction of banner advertising in my journal space.  Although AOL owns the spot, for the amount of money the PAYING customer spends with them, they should, at the least, give us uninterupted, non distracting space for our writing.  

Oh, and while I'm at it, I'm still ticked off about all the FREE access...but hey, it is what it is.

No, AOL, you cannot use my name or my image or my writing for anything without my permission and you won't be getting it any time soon until those journal ads go away.

Anonymous said...

I know that my $XX/mo. isn't going to break AOL's back, but I love to joust with windmills.  

I've moved my journal to blogspot (stephweiss.blogspot.com) and the dog's to Dogster (http://www.dogster.com/?32933). I'll cancel my 12- or 13-year AOL account as soon as I can move all my e-mail addresses to G-mail. I separate my recyclables, too.

There is something important in the fact that Blogspot gives you a free blog and you can opt in to advertising, for which you are paid if you get click-throughs. I have no desire to put ads on my blog, but if a free blog service can allow opt-ins/out, and pay back some pennies for clicks, then why is AOL being such a heavy-handed bunch of money-grubbing pigs? I'll give you a hint: It's spelled R-E-S-P-E-C-T

Anonymous said...

I HATE the ADS!  They Look AWFUL!!!!

It is "MY" journal.  My heart and soul is in there.  I should have say on how it looks, and what is in it, for pete's sake!  

There was NO advance warning that any of these "updates" were going to take place.  What kind of system is THAT?  Doesn't the client/ customer's opinion Matter to AOL?    YOU SHOULD ASK US FIRST BEFORE CHANGES ARE MADE.  Since we are the ones using the service -- WE SHOULD HAVE MORE INPUT AND SAY in the matter!

I think a huge hornet's nest has been stirred with this brilliant idea of AOL's.  Now it's time to deal with the aftermath, which will be FAR from pretty for AOL.

Anonymous said...

My complaint has been sent to them also. Only reason we had aol was bc I liked the journals. Now there is no reason to keep it. I put in the email if they dont reply within 24 hrs to me I will be canceling service. I  have earthlink anyways. Ill just move my journal over to blogspot or livejournal. So if I dont hear back there will be one last entry on my journal that gives the new address and Ill have to spend another day copying and pasting entries into it. Until then...tah tah
Felicia
p.s.Joe....fix this problem please. I enjoy aol jland community too much to go and see people go. But I'm not dealing with this and neither are they. I woke up this morning with over 30 emails on boycotting jland and thats what i'm going to do as well.

Anonymous said...

From AOL's Magic Smoke to AOL's Magic Choke...

Everyone can write to Ted Leonsis, AOL VP at washingtoncaps@aol.com.

Sending your comments off to JournalChanges isn't going to cause AOL to listen any more than they already DON'T.

Anonymous said...

Way beyond simple feedback to appropriate channels, several thousand (plus) people woke up this morning and quickly got very pissed. Consumer-based service industry stands or falls on customer service, and AOL will pay a reckoning short or long-term for the total lack of foresight it has shown in repsect of intrusive advertising. Naturally looking top down nothing will seem any different, but thats the trouble with lofty spires, you lose perspective.

Anonymous said...

can you say "mass exodus"? I knew you could:) judi

Anonymous said...

Just tried to talk to a "real" person at AOL Customer Service.  Does your company have any clue what each department is doing??  I spoke to Customer Service who knew NOTHING about the ads and kept referring to them as "pop up ads" which I explained that they are NOT pop ups, they are embedded in our journals!  He then transferred me to tech support, who of course said that he has nothing to do with ads on our journals since he just deals with technical issues regarding AOL.  Like DUH!  THEN, THEN, THEN, get this Joe, he tried to sell me something!!!!!!!!!!!!!  He tried to transfer me to a representative to sell me something!  Hell no!!  Anyway, just so others know who are reading the comments, don't even bother calling AOL, they have no clue what they are doing!
Lisa

Anonymous said...

And another thing, I rang up the AOL Overlords and I got the run around as well. For a corporation the says it listens to it's customer base, you have really got a lot of nerve. First the guy asks if I have my pop-up controls on, then he wants to know if my virus and spyware programs are activated. When I told him it was a banner ad in my public journal, he had the nerve to ask if I knew what the word "public" meant implying that I should get used to having ads on my public journal. When I asked if going private would get rid of my banner ad, he said yes although I already knew he was lying since I had already been to the private journals and they had the heinous eyesores as well. J-land is leaving, soon, if this is not resolved to our satisfaction. By the way, he gave me a snail mail address to write my complaint to. Nice. Real nice.

Anonymous said...

I just went throught the same thing as the person below while calling aol. I even cussed out the freaking woman bot thing that asked for my security question cuz i said the answer 10 times and she still said she couldnt understand me. FIX THOSE THINGS TOO. But I told the tech guy I was through and will  no longer have aol as of thanksgiving. this is BS and ya know what....as soon as I find out for sure when aol will be turned off here (after consulting with hubby) I"m going to come back to this journal, and joes, and the emails I sent to aol...and F the tos rules since ya'll dont actually care about us...why should i care about your stupid rules...and Ill tell you exactly what I think about this banner in my journal. Oh...and for the fun of it...its going to go as the last entry in my journal. I'm irrate although thats not the word for it. CHANGE IT NOW.
Felicia

Anonymous said...

How come I can`t Post an entry?
http://journals.aol.com/deabvt/DeablerVT/
V

Anonymous said...

Lisa...they were probably going to sell you a Bank of America checking account.  Or a Quiznos sub.

ROFL  Just a little journal invasion humor.

~~ jennifer

Anonymous said...

This is really crappy. I am very unhappy about this. Why do we pay for someone else's ads in our journals. It doesn't make any sense.
Kat

Anonymous said...

AOL IS PUSHING ME TO THE EXIT DOOR!!!!!!!!

Invading MY journal space is enough! That's MY little space here to do what I want and now they have made my journals ALL 4 OF THEM look like crap! I will be finding a new home for my journals ASAP and I'm talking to my husband tonight about CANCELLING OUR AOL.....they do NOT want happy customers.....they have NO idea about customer service....well they arre about to lose alot of customers.....I have been a AOL customer of about 14 years and in that time I have put up with alot of crap but NO MORE this was the last straw for me!!!!!!!!

REMOVE THE ADS!!!!

Anonymous said...

How come I can`t Post an entry?
http://journals.aol.com/deabvt/DeablerVT/
V
Comment from deabvt - 11/15/05 4:11 PM



http://deabvt.blogspot.com/

V

Anonymous said...

When the message boards were opened up to the entire internet, I stopped posting. When AOL let anyone with an AIM ID create a journal on AOL, I was pissed, but pleased that at least they had ads and I didn't. It was nice to see the buttload of money I pay for this service was good for something. Now...I have banner ads too. AOL obviously doesn't want my business anymore.

Anonymous said...

oh and by the way, I sell my very beautiful art from my very beautiful website....
here:
http://hometown.aol.com/judithheartsong/myhomepage/index.html


by golly, that just felt good. Can you hear us yet aol?
judi

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

I wish I could delete that banner ad for that shabby Bank Of America as easily and painlessly as you made my Toys For Tots link vanish in YOUR journal. Santa noticed that, and I hope that you have a coal burning stove.

Who thought of Puke Green for the AOL 9.0 banner color? Did you guys just close your eyes and reach into a Crayola box?
***********************************************

As upset as I may be, I have a couple of good ideas for you:

- Give us at least a choice of what business will whore out our journals. Weatherbug- who I'd imagine has a lot less loot than AOL- have up to like 20 options. This would help people who are loathe to advertise for a den of theives like Bank Of America, or some shabby sandwich shop.

- Give journalers a discounted rate. We are asked to advertise businesses for AOL, which isn't a requirement of people I know who log on just to jerk off over an IM. Since everyone of us is generating income for AOL (in the form of those shoddy banners), it is only fair that we get a break.

- Is there a background color that makes the ads go away?

- For all of us who borrow pictures from other web-sites for our blogs... can we (or AOL) be sued, since we are now generating revenue with out sites? Once somebody makes a successful suit and establishes a precedent, I may have 400 people suing me for money I don't make- over an advertiser I can't effing stand.

- I like you and John (and I hear Jamie is taking some guff now, too), and they kind of laid you all out there to get pounded on.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the email address Joe, sorry to vent this on you. Hopefully our emails can be a collective voice of the people that will make a difference.

Anonymous said...

I am very "UPSET" about the AOL Advertisment that has been added to my Journals.  I do "NOT" want any type of ADS associated with my Journals, unless I am getting "PAID"!!!  I would like to have those ADS "REMOVED" PDQ!!!  Does AOL want to "LOSE" the rest of its Customers or What???



http://journals.aol.com/foxxgiavani/POLITICSUPCLOSEANDPERSONAL/

http://journals.aol.com/foxxgiavani/KATRINAANDRITANEWS/

http://journals.aol.com/foxxgiavani/REALNEWSPOLITICS/

Anonymous said...

here's my email:

this one is a no brainer folks.

remove the banner ads immediately.

or provide free aol service to run them.

incredibly bad marketing move on your part.  

really not good to piss off the paying customers - you all should have learned that in marketing 101. lose the ads or lose me as a customer.

unless of course, that is the plan - trying to see how many and how fast you can lose customers...

wouldn't want to be the one to explain that to your shareholders.

but if you insist on this, insulting and obnoxious move - i'll be more than happy to comply. and move my talents elsewhere...like..uh...FREE blogspot.com

andrea m.
freely floralilia

Anonymous said...

You should resign.

http://gabreaelsbodymindandspirit.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

I cannot post any entries at all to my one journal -- No buttons, makes it kinda hard to do!!

Then in my other journal -- Hey!!  I GOT buttons, BUT I can't post any photos ((guess what???  It's a GRAPHICS journal))

How the hell do you have a graphics journal WITHOUT pictures??????

AOL is getting suckier and suckier, let me tell you!!!

Anonymous said...

Does ANYBODY at AOL CARE that their customers are EXTREMELY upset and ready to flee???????

unfriggin believable.

Anonymous said...

I'm not upset about the Ad Banner. Really. I am upset a little that I still can't save a new entry, but I assume they'll get it fixed soon.

What is unique though, is I just realized after reading the other comments that I'm paying a lot for a service I can get for free. AOL has free IMs (which I don't use anyway), free email (I think anyway, if not there's GMail and all those others) and free AOL journals. I really can't figure out why I haven't left yet.  I think maybe I should save myself a nice chunk of change every month and switch to someone else.

Anonymous said...

I think their next step will be to ask us to pay extra to remove the ads.

Anonymous said...

THANX JOE....MY E MAIL TO journalchanges@aol.com is on it's way....but I have a funny feeling it's NOT going to matter. AOL is too big now. Pity.~Diane~
http://journals.aol.com/dizarra/StorysFromtheCityTalesFromtheSea

Anonymous said...

I have just sent an email.  Please remove the ads from the journal pages.  Please....takes away from our creativity...makes it less special for me.

Anonymous said...

Sent my e-mail off to the new screen name.

Anonymous said...

Joe,

please remove the banners! We PAY for this service-We do NOT want banners...they are offensive in the extreme. If AOL is really listening (which I doubt) these will be removed immediately. We pay for these NOT to be here.

The banners have to GO!

Rust176longbch

Anonymous said...

Thanks to a dear friend for writing this.


A) If you want to stay with the AOL type "theme" you can use AIM

AIM has free Journals, IM's and a 2 GB mail box for FREE

B) You can keep using AOL and be pissed off like the majority of us have been since version 7.0 came out ...

C) You can register your own domain name and have your own .com or .net or any other extension, site from godaddy.com for 8.95 a year And for reasonable hosting I recommend http://www.shieldhost.com check out their prices VERY reasonable and NO set up fee! I have my own domain through godaddy.com and I will be hosting my site through shieldhost.com

D) You can use free sites such as blogger/blogspot, ebloggy.com, blogeasy.com, livejournal.com, xanga.com ... etc there are numerous free blogs out there

E) If you use an alternative free blog site or make your own domain, you can use Bloglines.com or Blogrolling.com to be alerted of when the people you link, post


I hope a lot of people will copy this and email to all their AOL journalers.

STOP THE ADS, WE'RE PAYING CUSTOMERS!!!

Anonymous said...

An FYI, Joe. I have not had any issues seeing or adding comments. Sorry you're taking so much flak about this. I've been try to be a voice of reason on the forums, but they're all running around like headless chickens, and can't hear reason. I know that you had absolutely no say about this.
-Paul
http://journals.aol.ca/plittle/AuroraWalkingVacation/

Anonymous said...

Ummm...is it just me or do these banners seriously distract from the writing at in the entry below it?!  Why does AOL need these huge a$$ banners?!  Isn't the ads on the hometown pages, the email boxes and all that jazz enough?! -Dawn-

Anonymous said...

Joe,

I respect the fact that you are the messenger in this situation.  You have already stated that you tried to prevail upon AOL management to keep the ad banners off of journals owned by paid accounts.  I appreciate your efforts.

I hope that AOL's management realizes that if they do something that requires them to create a SPECIAL SCREEN NAME just to handle the volume of complaints, it's time to UNDO what they did.

I cannot continue with my blog under these circumstances.  I will be happy to resume regular posting when AOL removes the advertising from my paid account's blog.  Until then, there comes a point at which enough is enough.

Thanks again for your efforts to fight for us and for keeping us informed.  I hope you'll have good news soon.

Patrick

Anonymous said...

it is immaterial now as to when we were warned, if at all. The point remains that this is wrong, to insert adds in our space when we are paying for it. AOL knows this and they are hoping the furor will die down and everybody will go back to happily blogging while we wear advertisements on our backs.

I think everybody has been exceedingly polite considering the fact that when we started out journals we did it in good faith as to the template and look of the blog. Face it Joe, none of these people would have started a journal and worked so hard on it in this format with those glaring ads there in the beginning. I have wasted more than a year and a half of my time creating a work of art that is now being pimped to any company that can afford the price.

So why don't you take all the ad banners away from existing journals (aim journals can keep them since they are not paying customers) and you can try to sell this new "look" to all the people who come down the pike tomorrow. They won't be buying Joe. This is a disgrace, and everybody from aol has kind of taken an attitude today, like we are misbehaving.

Our journals must be money-makers for you, or you would not have put ad space there.

This is not frivilous or trivial, and I think everybody at aol needs to think seriously about what we are saying. You guys will report for work tomorrow as usual... we have lost a forum that we treasured and believed in.

judi

Anonymous said...

when all of you go out to the bar after work this friday....Joe should never even have to take his wallet out... Joe's boss should be hooking up Joe and Jamie

Anonymous said...

The ads on journals SUCK.  Journals are part of our PAID service and AOL has NO RIGHT to make money off of our writing.  I have posted my feelings about the marketing of our souls on my blog and have encouraged a grass roots effort to file a class action against AOL.  What's next?  ads on our IMS and in our E-mail?  If AOL does not return to NO AD service I will break my contract with them even if it means changing my bank account to a different bank.  I will most likely be taking my journal elsewhere as well.

AOL can expect a mass exodus.  Have you NOT been reading the blogs you are defiling?


If I wanted AOL with ads I would have kept my WMConnect.Com  (Walmart Connect) account for less than 1/2 the price.

Anonymous said...

When people come to my journal, it is not because they want to see what I am advirtising. It is because they want to read my journal. They arent even reading the add up there, there is no point to it, they are scrolling down to get to the good stuff. There isnt that much traffic to my journal, but the traffic that does come sure isn't paying any attention to that add up there... so I am sure that Bank of America isn't getting ANYTHING out of my little peice of space, it isn't even worth it to them, so what is the point of pissing off a bunch of AOL members?? Am I missing that point?

Amanda over at
http://journals.aol.com/trickeytricky/CountryMyKindaLivin

oh... and it just looks tacky.

Anonymous said...

We are eloquent and educated consumers.  When I have needs I know how to get them met, one of them is an outlet for my writing.  

I write about God an alot.

This means that wanton consumer marketing will often fly in the face of what I have to say.  It will directly conflict with My Thoughts, My Blog.

I do not care about Skin Cream.

I do not care about Banks.

I care about people and growing.....

I care about feelings and love.





I pay to be here at AOL.

I PAY.


Christina K. Brown

Anonymous said...

Does everyone with a journal here think they are a pulitzer prize winning journalist??
Saying things like "I will be happy to resume posting" and "I refuse to let AOL use my journal to make money" just seems like a bunch of inflated egos to me!!

I'm sure that by now you and John know we hate the ads. I doubt there's a single person who writes a journal on AOL saying "Wow, I love the new banner ads!" And I'm sure you guys are doing your best to plead our case to the powers that be.

And I think that's all that we can do. It's probably an issue of weighing the value of how much of a thorn we are in their sides about it vs. the revenue they are gaining from the ads.

The BOTTOM LINE is what's going to make the difference here - not people 'threatening' to no longer post in their blog or continuing to post angry messages thinking that someone who can make a difference is actually reading them.

~Danielle

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

<<Does everyone with a journal here think they are a pulitzer prize winning journalist?? Saying things like "I will be happy to resume posting" and "I refuse to let AOL use my journal to make money" just seems like a bunch of inflated egos to me!!>>

People are taking a stand. I do not think I'm a pulitzer prize winning author. I do feel exploited, even if no one reads my journal, or if 1000 people read it. It's exploitation. That is the heart of the issue here.

Anonymous said...

End of the Liners are encouraged to join this group to stay up-to-date on our efforts to remove the advertising.

http://groups.aol.com/stopjournalads

Armand

Anonymous said...

"Does everyone with a journal here think they are a pulitzer prize winning journalist??
Saying things like "I will be happy to resume posting" and "I refuse to let AOL use my journal to make money" just seems like a bunch of inflated egos to me!!"

I am YOUR very own 2004 All Star Blogger, a 2005, Vivi Award winner, and an AOL Journals Hall Of Fame Original Entrant. It's my Diner- I'm Mel, you're Alice.

Anonymous said...

I would like to know why I cannot make entries in either of my journals. SINCE the banners appeared, I have tried dozens of times. The first few days I was able to sign on through VERIZON DSL and use that web browser to post. Now that no longer works. I am getting an error message saying I NEED TO DEBUG. WTF????
I cannot sign on using my browser from work either. What has AOL done to my journal? I was angry enough to begin.....I have uinstalled and reinstalled AOL to no avail. I have no problem on any other side. Last night when I signed onto another journal I was unable to post a comment. I went to a second journal and could not post one there either. NICE JOB AOL. At this point I am going to really enjoy cancelling my account in about a week.

Anonymous said...

All you have to do to never see an ad banner again is use the Firefox browser with their AD BLOCKER add-on.  NO MORE add banners on any site, including AOL, etc.